It has just occurred to me, doesn't Schreck assert in his book that Charlie and Altobelli were intimate? After Parent left his cottage, Garretson heard "noises." Make sure that the file is a photo. Movies. William M Garretson from Kennewick, WA. I don't know if it's 2 months AFTER the killings, or 2 months BEFORE the killings, which would make Roman a deadbeat as well. On the morning of Aug. 9, 1969, a housekeeper discovered five bodies scattered around the Los Angeles estate. "Act your age" Isn't THAT classic "program command" related to the MANSON case ?But where is it written in stone that YOU must act a certain way at any particular age ?Where does it say that YOU must wait until you are 33 to play a messiah ?Where does it say YOU must get a "college degree" before you can "teach" the young'ins ?AND where do WE get the idea that it is OK for our parents, school teachers, policemen, lawyers, preachers, politicians and ANYONE else - who is supposed to promote the TRUTH - to LIE, LIE, LIE, LIE.Maybe Jack was right - WE can't "handle" the real kind of TRUTH. He was described as having both sadistic and homosexual tendencies by a probation officer. Please enter your email and password to sign in. I think he was scared out of his wits. Copyright 2023 Distractify. He had no claim.2)You said, "Atobelli was the reason for the Garretson thing".Are you saying that Garretson was Rudy's "personal gay cabin boy"? NOT AT the Ranch.No murder weapons were ever found. Garretson, one lucky son of a gun. Opposite the driveway leading to main entrance, which is on the right.Even if the killers hadn't initially seen the lights in guest house or heard the music Garretson was listening to, it seems like after they chased Folger & Frykowski onto front lawn, they would have noticed the lights & music in the guest house. Born August 24, 1949 Died August 16, 2016 (66) Add to list Photos Credits IMDbPro Archive Footage Previous 2 Helter Skelter: An American Myth Self - Caretaker (archive footage) TV Mini Series 2020 LOLOLThat's bordering-on demented. This is where I learned about Paul Tate cleaning up the blood. And on a 2 - 4thtrip had he felt He was a lucky bystander that had nothing to do with any of this. The Associated Press contributed to this article. They had 8 children: John Hartin Garretson, Mary Powell (born Garretson) and 6 other children. var part2 = "mansonblog.com"; someone refuses to take a polygraph, like O.J. I think the chances are good that WG was servicing Altobelli.I also now believe that Steven wasn't likely there to just try to sell a clock radio. ?That guy sucks. Debra Tate Disgraces the Words Victims' Advocate, Manson Blog Reveals True Identity and Fate of Ruby Pearl. These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. Altobelli was in a long term relationship with somebody his own age and actually jointly owned the property with that person. He also worked part time at night for Jonas Miller Stereo, 8719 Wilshire Boulevard. No animated GIFs, photos with additional graphics (borders, embellishments. Evidence was hidden or destryed, key witnesses were NOT CALLED, perjury was committed and these people were RAILROADED as a doped hippie anti-war protest peace PSYOPS terrorist for the American people.Vince Bugliosi was a criminal himself and he stalked his milkman and his entire family, Herbert Weisel and later impregnated a mistress, demanded an abortion, then broke her nose when she refused, Santa Monica resident Virginia Cardwell. Release Calendar Top 250 Movies Most Popular Movies Browse Movies by Genre Top Box Office Showtimes & Tickets Movie News India Movie Spotlight. and he said, 'shut up, I'll show you,' " Garretson recalls. Well Col if you broadcast it on social media and my mom finds out, you can no longer "keep" me. the police never found anyone admitting to being at the house with a similar There is 1 volunteer for this cemetery. You have to be a bit of a tough nut to do that. 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When shouting and screams followed a few minutes later, Garretson hid in the cottage, not wanting to become involved, or be another victim. Homicide cops knew this guy without any blood or cuts couldt chase and stab all these people unless he was Speedy Gonzalez.Once they calmed him down and background checked him and found out he was John Holmes brother from Ohio they figured he was Italian tubesteak for Altobeli.Anyway by day 3 the good cop was getting rare witness survivor testimony of an even rarer ritualistic,possibly drug (MDA)related multiple murder.As far as I can tell the cops treated him with kid gloves.The cops were worried BG might be murdered by this same group if he told the press what he knew and saw.I was in Los Angeles from the Boston area from Jan-June 1969.I was 20 and couldn't believe how many hitchhikers there were.I bought a 1957 Century from my landlord not realizing the Ca.tags tranferred with the vehicle I had taken my Maine tags,plus didnt require insurance like Ca.did.I myself bummed rides.Like most witnesses to an unknown perp murder.BG was told that he didnt hear or see anything.Thats why his lawyer did all the TV interview.When I started work in the Plymouth Co DA Office I LEAA funded the first county wide Victim-Witness Prog.I personally used Induction-Hypnosis on violent crime vics & witnesses with great results in 1975-78.Defense attornies complained I was manufacturing evidence.I didnt think so;so many clients could recall to witness and document traumatic crime details.Crime scene forensics was a bit sloppy at the Tate house.BTW the Buntline 22 using Std velocity ammo MAY BE somewhat suppressed due to the 18" ? He was likely a longtime sufferer of PTSD that he disastrously self-treated. ", The or don't show this againI am good at figuring things out. interview at face value, for the purpose of discussion.I also didn't know Garretson was on a possible drug/alcohol "bender" those nights. He said the male was creepy looking, (Tex? Failed to report flower. met previously, why was Garretson hiding this fact? Not kitchen knives.William Garretson saw and heard more than was told to us. Are you sure that you want to delete this photo? The sale of a used calendar clock seems absurd.Drug delivery? Yes. the next morning instead of a victim that night. That being said, he still has not told the whole story. He killed Parent because if Parent went through the gate and lived he would be able to describe the rambler to police. He recalls being at work when news came over the wire linking Garretson to the murders in California. WG must of heard something and locked the door. He died on 16 August 2016. He also stated he heard a woman scream as she ran by the pool. St Circumstance,Good point. Garretson could sleep through a blowjob. Esp after killing Frykowski, since he was running toward the guest house when he went down.I'm guessing at that point, the killers' senses would have been heightened due to the adrenaline they must have felt from the killing & from the drugs they were on. My understanding was that they were the house-sitters. If this concerns you click read more. Wow that kind of $ was livable.Gas was $.32 gal. You consent to our use of cookies if you continue to use this site. from Burdick and why? He testified that he stayed up all night, as he was going to call TIME at 0600, so he could wind and set the guesthouse clocks. var part1 = "deb"; A system error has occurred. With all of those windows in such a small house, not to mention the outside light, he was very vulnerable.I believe he was there, hiding on the property until the carnage had passed. It was probably that he was trying to keep back from LAPD.Sorry don't know how he made a living prior to that. ads view current number. We will update William Garretson's Height, weight, Body Measurements, Eye Color, Hair Color, Shoe & Dress size soon as possible. Even scumbag Vince Bugliosi agreed. we have to ask, why did Watson stop him and kill him? Manson Blog Considers the Brotherhood of Eternal Love Connection to TLB. the question Ill present to all of you: What information was Garretson hiding BUT ONE MAN cannot kill seven people solo.Susan Atkins, NO MOTIVE, NO , MEANS, standing 5'5, 120lbs and mother of a nine month childPatricia Krenwinkel, NO MOTIVE, NO MEANS, standing 5'2, 125lbsLinda Kasabian, the alleged taxi driver, age 18, with TWO infant children witnessed NOTHING and barely knew any on these alleged killers. All photos appear on this tab and here you can update the sort order of photos on memorials you manage. "They played a lot of head games and did the whole good cop, bad cop thing and did a polygraph," Garretson said. Use the links under See more to quickly search for other people with the same last name in the same cemetery, city, county, etc. But only one resident can say he actually was there. And he called Voytek the "younger Polanski".This guy was on a different plane.I'm not defending him. Verify and try again. Below, The bodies of Abigail Folger, 25; Jay Sebring, 35; Voyteck Frykowski, 32; and Steven Parent, 18; were found with knife or gunshot wounds. Helter Skelter was written by Curt Gentry, a CIA author of:1) May 1, 1960 Gary Powers false story 'Overflight' Lockheed U-2 faked shoot down. We have set your language to This flower has been reported and will not be visible while under review. I'm saying he's a dime a dozen criminal-class punk, who had the good fortune of running into some middle class pseudo-revolutionary white girls. This browser does not support getting your location. It was Aug. 11, 1969, when Lancaster resident William Garretson's name first appeared in national and local newspaper headlines. TV Shows. indication of truthfulness here because he wasn't running the machine and didn't Watson stay hidden in the bushes and let Steve pass through the gate Living on the property as the groundskeeper, Garretson was in the cottage on the grounds but claimed he heard nothing. "Charlie Manson is a five foot seven schizophrenic, who if it weren't for the murder of Sharon Tate, would never be known or discussed. I'll say one more thing.Rudy Altobelli, who owned the house, sued Roman for the blood stains on the house.Now how's that for a landlord.Rudy was a queer. Never getting it all out.It's a shame, that they had to do that.If my child had been killed, I'd never have done that in a rent house.Stupid. "I remember hearing that someone had approached his guesthouse that night and rattled the doors and then got distracted," Varga said. William Garretson Cielo Drive Caretaker (1949-2016). ). Where Garretson may have been fuzzy is at some point he may have gone out the back door of the guest house way after the murders that night, even further away from the main house, to the edge of the property on the extreme south side to let the dog go to the bathroom. And he called Voytek the "younger Polanski".This guy was on a different plane".You likely know more of the particulars on Garretson, than I do Katie.I had/have no idea how Garretson described the scene to the police the next day so, I'm reaching beyond my current knowledge with some of these points.I'm just taking the E! Local William Garretson adds 'strange' details about . Sex? Remember that the real killers had not been identified yet.I'm not aware that he flip-flopped multiple times as somebody indicated- just once, and his revised story is corroborated to a large extent by the polygraph. Schreck asserts that CM and RA were intimate. His 1999 interview I believe he has done so many drugs over the years his brain is probably somewhat fried and he probably was under pressure to make his tv appearance shocking. document.write(''); memorial page for William Floyd Garretson (19 Mar 1889-15 Mar 1972), Find a Grave Memorial ID 31128731, citing Grace Cemetery, Genito, Powhatan County . He probably quickly figured out no, and he left. Your Scrapbook is currently empty. That was in the newspaper but I think it was incorrect. And I wonder if the creepy hippie trio in the van may be how Katie got her info onSharon Tate was "not supposed to be there that night" as also stated in both HS and THE FAMILY.. County Cornoner Thomas Noguchi testified that MOST of these puncture would were from a double edged bayonet 3-6 inches deep. Here He was born in Altoona, son of the late Franz and Theresa (Kahlhammer) Maier . he was in police custody. Continuing with this request will add an alert to the cemetery page and any new volunteers will have the opportunity to fulfill your request. If you could time machine back to 1969 young people of today would be astounded at the 100's of hitchhikers everywhere especially in LA.While attending Pepperdine and driving hack in LA I was told that Parents car had been seen by the newspaperman parked overnight outside the gate and that Parent had delivered drugs to Polanski.Another fare in the valley below the house had heard gunshots,screams,barking,and music off and on from above. their equal rights, I support gay marriage, hell, I even support Bruce Jenner hahahaTalk about an opportunist of the highest order.I have no idea what the outcome of that claim was Katie said>>>>"I do know that when he was captured the next day, Sat. I have often wondered about the three hippies in a van who supposedly brought WG back up to Cielo after his walk downto the canyon store to get cigarrettes and I believe a TV dinner.Botj Sanders and The Bug have him returning around 9 pm,Having taken a lift in a van with one male and two female hippieTypes. Search above to list available cemeteries. It is always a lie.Charles Watson, Patricia Krenwinkel, Susan Atkins & Leslie Van Hauten were NEVER PERMITTED a defense. Shell-shocked. At all.I'm just saying, let's look back and see what might have been. Manson Blog Reveals Bobby Beausoleil's "Art" Focuses on Child Domestic Discipline! I believe Garretson was being evasive because he was worried the cops would investigate the relationship with Altobelli. It is in the first homicide investigation report of the Tate murder." He passed away in 2016 after a battle with cancer, two years before Charles Manson would meet his demise in prison. poor lighting and NO SIDEWALKS. document.write(part3 + ''); Garretson passed the poly and he passed when he said he heard no shots or screams, I think the telephone being dead and the door handle being down indicating someone tried to enter at some point freaked him out and he didn't want to admit he was afraid and left the house for a bit. In my younger days I've done similar things. Tate, who was 26 and eight months pregnant, had been stabbed multiple times. Police tried to hold onto him for as long as possible as they had absolutely no other leads and he was the only person found alive on the premises. var part1 = "matt"; 0 cemeteries found in Baltimore, Fairfield County, Ohio, USA. All rights reserved. It might be interesting to check if this is consistent, or a ploy for the examiner.Back to the evaluation of casual sex in LA, in the late 60s. I thought you might like to see a memorial for William Eston Willy, Billy, Bill Garretson I found on Findagrave.com. The chief object of attack during the five burglaries he was caught at was electronic equipment. Then how in the world did Tex and his two partner Leslie and Patricia get back to the Spahn Ranch? Fake history and real fear. By this I mean if they had largely bought the idea of the masculine role--played sports, dated, gotten into fights, been in the military, or otherwise had consistently participated in the socially normal idea of the male role, they would tend to view gay relationships as unthinkableeven if there existed an attraction to another male, I suspect.It was that unacceptable and reviled, at the time.Me, so that you can norm where this coming from, was in Marin County thru the mid-60s (up to age 20), and had moved to San Diego by the later 60s. THey did tests at the crime scene and determined with the stereo setting at 4-5 and blasting away and all the windows closed he would not have heard any gunshots or screamsperiod. No mention of Barker of Meyers Ranches in the China Lake Navy restricted area.11) btw: The entire Mojave Desert is under surveillance----it's all CIA 24/7. Ok, I'm at 38,000 feet on the iPhone so if this is choppy and full of typos, please forgive.It would seem to me that the people least likely to hear the gunshots from the gate control mechanism would be the occupants of both the main house and the guest house because of the canyon wall that block the sound to the residence. It is mandatory to procure user consent prior to running these cookies on your website. Add to your scrapbook. I believe the door he actually probably went out was the south exit and Im guessing he took the dogs out there to far end of the property to go to bathroom. I recall listening to a great Rolling Stones Lp {Through the past, darkly} at the house of a guy I'd not met before and I dreamed of that album for 3 months and I just turned up at his pad one day and borrowed it ! Labels: Bill Garretson , Rudy Altobelli , Steven Parent 41 comments: ResGestae said. Said in the context where he first mentioned this war vet living there, who had his girl and another girl over at times as well. His trigger seems to be the down turned French door handle indicating somebody tried to enter the door plus no sleep for a long time in his shaky answer on whether he left the guest house at any point fri nite. But I guess maybe he went into a corner and just shivered until he fell asleep.But that doesn't explain why he told the police he didn't hear anything.Except, that when they busted his door down on Sat. // -->,