Tom rings the Dowager Countess, and she talks to Mary, who breaks down about the fear of being a crash widow again. Tom tries to talk Lady Mary into giving Henry another chance because he sees how miserable she is. As a new Downton fan I have just watched all the episodes and this is my first visit to this Wiki when I see this forum right on the home page I joined so I could comment on your comments. After the royal visit, life barely returns to normal at Downton Abbey. This is a list of characters from Downton Abbey, a British period drama television series created by Julian Fellowes and co-produced by Carnival Films and Masterpiece for ITV and PBS, respectively. I challenge your knowledge of "Aspergers", which was declassified as a condition over 2 years ago when the new Austism Spectrum Disorder guidelines were introduced and your comment is only from 4 days ago. "something off", what exactly does that mean? It's wild and overwhelming and this is simply a baby or one of twins, who is tired, over-loaded, confused, trying to pick her own parent out of the crowd of strangers (yes, she's seen them before, but they are not part of her small world), lights, poles, cords, machinery, people constantly infereing etc. Downton Abbey Wiki is a FANDOM TV Community. The death of his heir aboard R.M.S. Kennedys recent book outlines the huge increase in autism since vaccine onset just a few decades ago. Not even Downton Abbey could escape the impact of the Great War. Pictures Of Sandwiches With Names, do fungi have cell walls made of cellulose. Geesh, such ignorance! I just find the whole thing odd - either she is actually developmentally delayed/disabled, OR she simply appears that way on screen. It probably just took time for the actresses to get used to the set. Cousin Isobel sees Lady Mary in the cemetery and tells her shes delighted she is ready to marry again. As a mother of 2 children diagnosed with ASD I am very familiar with the condition and it didn't even cross my mind when watching the program. Well, her behavior in season six, episode seven was so deplorable even I couldn't justify it. Does Edith also resemble her parents? I'm watching episode 8 of season 5, and Marigold is sitting on Edith's lab. Although Mrs Drewe does not believe her at first, she does relent and lets Edith take her daughter and her teddy bear (Mrs Drewe says she won't sleep without it). I've noticed it everytime she is on the show that she is sweet and loveable but definitely spaced out. SPOILER ALERT: Downstairs comes upstairs as Downton's Earl has secret bedroom tryst with his new maid. When "Downton Abbey" came to an end, the Samms twins also made an appearance in the first "Downton" film (via IMDb). Edith PelhamHerbert PelhamMargie Drewe (formerly)Timothy Drewe (formerly)Crawley familySybbie BransonGeorge Crawley However, I want to give her the benefit of the doubt. My tears turned to laughter when Lady Edith finally meets the advice columnist, and its Sprat! Marigold (b. late December, 1922 or early January 1923) is the illegitimate daughter and only child of Edith Pelham and the late Michael Gregson. Edith is not creepy crazy, she is trying to keep her child without causing a scandal for the family. As to your likening of Aspergers to a "dreaful [sic] impediment" is very short sighted as many people diagnosed with the condition as children, with the help of caring and understanding therapies, grow into productive, intelligent and socially adjusted adults. You are reading way to much into this,Kids are weird. It gives me no joy to agree with many there, but thr you have it. Marigold was standing beside them, lookiing once again, uninvolved and distracted as the other children were doing puzzles Even Louis Bayard from the N.Y. Times wonders about her, asking, Isnt it time she starts to talk? They grow up so quickly! I've been on play and movie sets. There was something that didn't look right. Other servants bustle about . The first Marigold was older than the second. Lack of tracking with the eye, lack of eye contact, lack of emoting, lack of speech/delayed speech, lack of responding to inquiries and cues, etc. Lady Ediths suitor begs for her hand in marriage, and she agrees before being able to spit out the truth about Marigold. That doesn't sound dreadful to me. Anna speculates that she will, when she is ready. Hollywood Life If the writers don't plan to include a challenged child in the plot (and unveil it soon), I think it's very poor casting and it draws attention away from the story line because viewers - instead of paying attention to the plot - sit there thinking, "What the heck is wrong with Marigold?" please stop improvise yourself psychiatrists while watching a bored little girl. She tricks him into telling her about Marigold. Mary calls for Henry, but before he arrives she pays a visit to Matthews grave. Also, we dont hide our relatives in state hospitals until they die. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Anna May Bates (ne Smith) (played by Joanne Froggatt) (b. A Duke arrives to court Lady Mary, but he's more of a man's man. ", Late December, 1922 or Early January 1923 (age 5-6). Yep, definitely older but by god that little girl really looked like Gregson. You really think those kids look like Gregson? Secrets literally flared both up and downstairs of Downton Abbey during the season five US premiere on PBS Masterpiece Sunday. Others speculate that the child playing the part may have been sedated to keep her quiet. Welcome to the Downton Abbey subreddit, a place to discuss all things related to the show, the 2 feature films, the cast and the real-life history/context of the franchise. It gives me no joy to agree with many there, but thr you have it, Geesh, such ignorance! Is she Autistic? Winston Churchill and wife Clementine gave the name Marigold Frances to their fourth child, born just days after the end of World War I. Downton Abbey (2019) Full Cast & Crew See agents for this cast & crew on IMDbPro Directed by Writing Credits Cast (in credits order) complete, awaiting verification Produced by Music by John Lunn Cinematography by Ben Smithard Film Editing by Mark Day Casting By Jill Trevellick Production Design by Donal Woods Art Direction by Set Decoration by As a mother of 2 children diagnosed with ASD I am very familiar with the condition and it didn't even cross my mind when watching the program. She is very trustworthy, polite, and loyal to the Crawley family and her "downstairs" co-workers. While Mary does not figure it out, Anna notices Mr Drewe with the child. Edith had considered taking Marigold to America, dropping her title and inventing a dead husband. Downton Abbey Season 5 Scoop, Downton Abbey Season 5 SPOILERS: Twins Cast To Play Ediths Baby Daughter; Filming Begins With New Cast Members. She is the third grandchild and second granddaughter of Robert and Cora Crawley, and therefore the third great-grandchild and second great-granddaughter of Violet Crawley and Martha Levinson. Berties cousin, (who owns the home he works in), dies and Lady Mary seems convinced Lady Ediths suitor has lost his job but not so fast. Manage all your favorite fandoms in one place! Marigold with her birth mother, maternal grandparents, and cousin, Marigold's mother (left) with her two maternal aunts, Marigold (age two-three) happily playing with her toys. Edith repeatedly visited Yew Tree Farm to see her daughter, arousing the suspicions of Drewe's wife. Even once she's with the family, I don't think her character is supposed to seem as immediately comfortable since she's been moved a few times, so the little girls were probably just played out! Fans. I always read those claims as jokes, I don't think fans really thought she was being drugged or abused, they just thought they make her "acting" while she was sleepy. I don't know if they were just trying too hard to cast a baby who looked like Gregson and ended up with the most stoned-looking child in existence, or if it's intentional and Fellowes means to kick Edith in the teeth again by exposing that Marigold is mentally disabled or something and rousing another scandal. Careful, people will think youre jealous dear and we dont want that, her mother warns her. Honestly I found something lacking with the performances of all the child actors on the program, they are small children after all. But as a matter of fact, there is something about her. But Edith, fearing even more that she would never see Michael again, and knowing he gave her power of attorney, felt obliged to give at least half to her daughter should Michael indeed be proven dead. I've been watching this show since it first aired and not heard a single claim of any sort of child abuse or mistreatment of the child actress who played Marigold. Lady Edith discovers that her engagement got even sweeter, as Bertie is the heir to his cousin's estate, but the miserable Lady Mary manages to break up her sister's relationship by revealing the true identity of Marigold in this emotional episode -- and that's not all! So your judgements are based on viewing upwards of 4 to 6 different people, not just one. We record the children's working hours, breaks, meals, etc to make sure all legal requirements are kept, are trained and certified by the local child welfare arm of the council - who will often 'drop in' to make sure everything is running smoothly and we generally keep them all happy and healthy and entertained and on top of their school work. Perhaps she doesn't like Edith? Mrs Hughes and Anna speculating on whether Marigold will be told her true identity implies that while she grows up, the family, specifically Edith and Bertie, will continue to pass her off as their orphaned ward. Tom confronts Mary over her malicious behaviour and her true feelings for Henry. What? It's way too obvious and many people have noticed. I think the second set of twins were cast primarily because they looked like the guy who played Gregson and Robert recognising the resemblance was a plot point. Here's a theory - perhaps the reason something is "off" is because she was in Switzerland as an infant, living with the Drewes as a toddler, and in the Abbey as a preschool aged child. They'd look at you with that blank expression or like "who are you, why are you talking to me, go away" type thing. Full episode guide for Downton Abbey Season 1 Episode 1 A telegram arrives and we learn the Titanic is sunk. I hate it when adults want to pinhold a child into being what they think a child should be. Marigold (Eva Karina Samms) with her loving mother, Lady Edith. SPOILER ALERT: Downstairs comes upstairs as Downton's Earl has secret bedroom tryst with his new maid. We only see them for about ten seconds and in an environment that is completely unnatural to them. Thank you! Think Nurture not just Nature. Even if Marigold was a legitimate child, she cannot be called "Lady" because her biological father was not titled. I think that the casting director chose the twins who play Marigold for their resemblance to the Edith character. It's been said that the children tire quickly, and get bored, and so their "parents" play with them to keep up their interest. But the kid will figure it out by the time she matures, like age five. Gregson, Crawley Later that year, as the family is leaving for the grouse season at Brancaster Castle, Marigold and her cousins are brought outside to bid farewell. Marigold (late December, 1922 or early January 1923) is the illegitimate daughter and only child of Edith Pelham and the late Michael Gregson. I think there is something off with you for thinking that. I have a son who is 50 he was born with CP and other disabilities. To write spoilers in comments use the following format This is a list of characters from Downton Abbey, a British period drama television series created by Julian Fellowes and co-produced by Carnival Films and Masterpiece for ITV and PBS, respectively. Gray The Christmas clip is most telling. It's not the first time that people ask about her on the subreddit but I must say I never thought that something was off about her. I think that the casting director chose the twins who play Marigold for their resemblance . Thanks to Mr. Mason's encouragement, Daisy pursued her education and gained greater self-confidence. Other servants bustle about . I'm certain it will be proven later at the very least she has Aspergers or some other dreaful impediment. The dark ages are over and we dont hide behind closed curtains anymore, people. Twins Eva and Karina play Edith's daughter Marigold, and Hugh Bonneville shared a snap of them on the set of the Downton Abbey film. He was the employer and lover of Lady Edith Crawley, and the late father of her only daughter, Marigold. If the writers don't plan to include a challenged child in the plot (and unveil it soon), I think it's very poor casting and it draws attention away from the story line because viewers - instead of paying attention to the plot - sit there thinking, "What the heck is wrong with Marigold?" The first Marigold was older than the second. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Does anyone know if there were plans for the character to have developmental issues? I feel so sorry for her being passed from one person to the next, looking dazed and confused. A series of marriages, births, and deaths would be difficult enough for the occupants even if there weren't vicious criminals on the loose. Welcome to the Downton Abbey subreddit, a place to discuss all things related to the show, the 2 feature films, the cast and the real-life history/context of the franchise. Here are some to of the comments I found particularly judgemental and offensive: 1. As a teacher who has worked with children with many types of disabilities, I, too, have noticed a disconnect with the actions of Marigold. A series of marriages, births, and deaths would be difficult enough for the occupants even if there weren't vicious criminals on the loose. I assume you mean the second Marigolds, not the first set? There are some candids of her with the actors--mainly LC--onset and she looks like a normal, happy child. In Downton Abbey 3, George, Sybbie . Abbey Visitor 1 episode, 2015. About Highclere Castle (Downton Abbey). She has two maternal aunts, Mary Talbot and the late Sybil Branson, and three maternal uncles, Tom Branson, the late Matthew Crawley, and Henry Talbot. Any are you actually suggested the show use the Dowager's Countess' sarcasm to mock a child who may have a developmental disability. However, Rosamund says - in Episode 5.05 - that she spent "10 months" of her life making sure the baby came safely. Marigold (late December, 1922 or early January 1923) is the illegitimate daughter and only child of Edith Pelham and the late Michael Gregson. If she was just "bored or tired" they should have picked a more animated child for the part. I absolutely cannot believe what I am reading on this forum. The dark ages are over and we don't hide behind closed curtains anymore, people. The same instance when the thre children were playing in thr library, foused and alert. Lady Edith returns for Marys wedding day, saying that one day: Our shared memories will mean more than our mutual dislike. Shes being the better person and it feels like weve finally turned a page on the torture they, (well, mostly Mary), put each other through. There is definitely something off with Marigold. It was so noticeable to me that i sat up and paid attention if she seemed happy. Play Sound. DwntnAbby Fan wrote: I challenge your knowledge of "Aspergers", which was declassified as a condition over 2 years ago when the new Austism Spectrum Disorder guidelines were introduced and your comment is only from 4 days ago. Marigold N.N. Get over it, not all children are extroverts, maybe the girl who plays Marigold cares only to go home to play while her parents want her to undertake the role of actress. Sweat and oppression are dissolved by . But when Edith receives confirmation that Michael has been long dead, she decides she cannot stay in Downton and be happy. 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