The diameters of the bullets, length of bullets, chamber pressure and other details as generally published in English are at wide variance with the official Mauser figures. The combined plants capacity was 60,000 rifles per month. Failures related to case seperations or high pressures are more dangerous in the pre-98's than in the 98's, they are much more so in the pre-91's. Learn how your comment data is processed. I'd be curious to see some pictures of the scope and markings on it. If I could find a way to do it cheaply then I'm good to go but if I can't do the conversion to 9.3 myself or find a way to do it cheaply I may just have to stick with 8x57 (which isn't a bad caliber by any means, just not exactly what I want). They may be fine, but what if they're not? As shots are fired the clip remains in place until the last round is chambered, at which point it drops through a hole in the bottom of the rifle. There were also two carbine versions, the Karabiner 88 for mounted troops and the Gewehr 91 for artillery. After 1895 most Gewehr 1888 rifles were regrooved. deepen the grooves to the desired bore diameter. The following information on the Gewehr 88 Carbine comes from Chapter 12 of Mauser Rifles and Pistols by W. H. B. Smith. 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Was the spacer threaded or just a simple collar? Share. Barrel was marked V. Chr. ._3Z6MIaeww5ZxzFqWHAEUxa{margin-top:8px}._3Z6MIaeww5ZxzFqWHAEUxa ._3EpRuHW1VpLFcj-lugsvP_{color:inherit}._3Z6MIaeww5ZxzFqWHAEUxa svg._31U86fGhtxsxdGmOUf3KOM{color:inherit;fill:inherit;padding-right:8px}._3Z6MIaeww5ZxzFqWHAEUxa ._2mk9m3mkUAeEGtGQLNCVsJ{font-family:Noto Sans,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-weight:400;line-height:18px;color:inherit} The front band served also as sight guard. In America these figures are usually quoted in foot-pounds on a basis of 2000 pounds to the ton, without making allowance for the fact that the British ton is 2240 pounds. Many Gewehr 88 rifles stayed in active service in second-line units, reserves, and in armies allied with the Germans through and well past World War I. Moderators:The Double D, Viclav, Johnny Yuma, GrantR Canada, Carignan Salieres, vincent998. The invention of smokeless powder in the late 19th century immediately rendered all of the large-bore black powder rifles then in use obsolete. Dont try to shoot modern 8x57 in it until you figure it out. Amberg GEW88. Furthermore, the official Mauser figures are 3200 Atmospheres for the round nose (an Atmosphere is approximately 14-2/3 foot pounds) and 3500 Atmospheres for the pointed bullet! don't bother messing around with the 88 if your goal is a cheap hunting gun. All known 757mm Karabiner 88s were produced by Haenel. In his entire life he didnt design not even a single screw but he was a very very smart manager and director of Steyr factory OEWG. I have a few in different configuration. Suitable only for short range hunting? Unlike many rifles designed later, the bolt head of this rifle is able to be removed from the bolt body. Some idea of the tremendous extent of these manufacturing operations may be gained from the following figures: The rifle barrel required 54 operations to complete. Original German WW1 MAUSER Model 1871 Gewehr 71 cleaning tool . build what YOU want and shoot with a smile! The stock has a small repair behind the rear tang screw. Golf and guns (but cattle pay the bills)
And I'm still waiting for my well to come in, guns (duh, ya think? I got it with an old Turk marked bayonet an an incorrect US canvas sling. Could you please explain that to me? A lot of the older Gewehr/Karabiner 88 sporters were purpose built by CG Haenel. If it was me I'd buy a nice Lothar Walther contoured barrel and consider myself WAY ahead of the game. The European sporters are generally worth as much as a non-modified rifle. ), autos, models, woodcarving. As a result, the lugs are further back than in genuine Mauser designs. By do yourself a favor and buy a Turk mauser (k.Kale if you can) for about a hundred bucks and shoot it. The barrel flats bear the signature "von G . This bolt was straight as in the standard rifle. In 1886, fifteen years after their defeat by German forces in the Franco-Prussian War, the French Army introduced the new Lebel magazine rifle firing an 8mm high-velocity projectile propelled by the new smokeless powder. Lots of military rifles were used as hunting rifles in Germany and all over the world from the 30s-70s. The same the prized Mannlicher Schonauer: it actually should be named Schlegemilch Schoenhauer cause it has nothing to be named Mannlicher. all it need have is a pilot the diameter of the 8mm lands. [citation needed] The Turks issued these and updated versions at least as late as the 1930s. but for these why not use a turk kkale 8mm barrel, it needs to be modified a little to fit but will correct the diameter issues and make a good, unique, cheap, brush gun. Examples of these usually show first-class workmanship and special features such as folding sights and altered bolt handles. You definitely don't want that hapening in an earlier action. A place to discuss military surplus firearms collection and other C&R weapons. Many of the Gewehr 88-rifles were produced by the armament manufacturer Loewe & Company, whose chairman was Jewish entrepreneur Isidor Loewe. The barrel shroud was not only possessed . from Germany. As a result, the number of minor variations seems endless. The variable burn rates caused high pressure problems that highlighte dthe design deficiences of actions like the 88. Antique GEW 88 Sporter Rifle. 8x57 jrs (8mm mauser) mauser hanyang 88 8mm commissioner gewehr 1888 c&r as-is osgah305 littleton, co 80120: used: 5/4/2022: $380.00 : other model 8x57 jrs (8mm mauser) gewehr 88 8mm mauser spandau 1889 (read) howard, ks 67349: used: 4/12/2022: $416.13 : 8x57 jrs (8mm mauser) 1888 gewehr 88 chinese mauser b14965 rw mount morris, il 61054: used . 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It depends on if it is a model used on German sniper rifles. Well, when I bought a beautiful Thieme & Schlegelmilch (Nimrod Gewehrfabrik brandname) Gewehr 88 sporter in 9x57, I was a tad doubtful of it ever Gewehr 88 Commercial Sporter On Way Back to Former Glory! Norma factory loads only generate 35,000 psi. - Free Online Library", "Ethiopian military rifle cartridges: Part 2: from Mauser to Kalashnikov", "Weapons Of The Greco-Turkish War Part 1", "Israeli Small Arms IDF issue weapons [Archive] - UZI Talk Forums", "Zbrojownia tamtych lat Arsena odrodzonej armii", "Weapons of the Irish Revolution part I 191416", "From Arisaka to assault rifle: The military rifle cartridges of Japan part 2", "Fuzil da Comisso Alem de 1888 "Gewehr '88" (Rev. $131.00 + $29.99 shipping . This explains why its period as the primary German service rifle was just over a dozen years, but it remained in limited service for much longer. I have hunted both deer and boar with mine. Check out the original cartridge box on the 2nd page. Later developed German cartridges are much too powerful to be used in this action. If I get a new barrel that also opens up another problem. You are using an out of date browser. The rifle retains a lot of the original finish with some spots of rust. 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