Reversed half wells cork grip. (Chris Obuchowski), Hexrods library seems to suggest otherwise. I have built Russ' version, which I believe was posted yesterday, and I love it. 90 0.296 157251. I have a chart of the dimensions at home, if you need a copy email me off list. maybe someone else has one! This board is for discussing the collecting of bamboo fly rods, both classic and modern. Information About Makers and Manufacturers, Appraisals & Identification of Bamboo Fly Rods. 30 .174 .318 I noticed a couple of versions of this taper where the swell was moved out in front of the grip but all of the original 1970 versions show it differently. (Mark Wendt), Was the varnish allowance of .004 already subtracted from the numbers for the 661510, or does it need to be done? (Frank Stetzer, Hexrod, Taper Archive, Rodmakers Archive), I'm grateful to you for that point because a recent post referred to straight taper Garrisons and I wonder if he meant straight stress "curves". Whether you're picking out your very first fly-fishing rod or coming in for a new modern fly reel after years out on the water, Sportsman's Warehouse can supply you with the very best fly-fishing equipment. What physical characteristics make a taper roll cast well. ), Then as it was, then again it will be. Welcome to the Taper Archives; The data on this page reflects the work of generations of dedicated rodmakers. For each size ferrule there is a specific range of dimensions that will fit inside each size. Though the course may change sometimes, rivers always reach the sea. OK, the rod was a Paul Young Perfectionist. Mr. Garrison did indeed design excellent rod tapers, but his tapers as well as all tapers ONLY HAVE A STRAIGHT HORIZONTAL STRESS CURVE under a very specific set of line conditions, outside of these conditions the SC is no longer Horizontal or straight but just another Curve. 45 0.186 158623 $239.00 + $24.95 shipping (2) Vintage HEDDON PAL Casting Rods - #6277 Wormer 5'6"+ #6273 Musky Special 5' . Powered by Shopify. . You can draw a straight line between the tip and the butt of any taper. Dickerson 8015 Guide Special By Jim Schaaf, 2458 - 11. I have been gobs smacked many times when the customer turns around and says I like this one. Taxes and shipping calculated at checkout, Browse our bamboo fly rods in stock and available now, Browse our collection of reels in stock and available now. (Mark Dyba), Heh, nothing wrong with that. 90 0.329 Except for where the swell begins, the butts are similar as well. It made a fine rod, but you have to smooth out the taper leading into and out of the 45 and 50" stations as the rod was designed for a step down ferrule. Perhaps I did not state myself clearly. (Steve Weiss), That's the rub isn't it? As a general rule, a 12/64 gives you a four weight, a 13/64 a five, 14 or 15 a six. They tend to be slightly faster action than the classic designs on which they were based. 25 .156 .310 10 .110 .254 It was a rod I hate. Over the last few days there has been a long thread about rods breaking at the female ferrule. Besides, he's a fun guy to chat with about almost anything to do with fly fishing and the outdoors. The rod is currently 7'-2" after a test fit so I want to trim to the correct 7-0 length. 0.206 There are no great tapers and nobody invented anything. . Cross Rods. Then the part of the ferrule that fits on the bamboo inside the male slide 'stepped down' to .187" ID, or 12/64. Still own the other and it has a DT6 on it. (Frank Stetzer, Hexrod, Taper Archive, Rodmakers Archive). (Gary Nicholson), I think most rodmakers wouldn't build a rod to sell that they didn't like, but would make one for a customer that they wouldn't use themselves, I know I have. I recently sold a rod to a customer blind on the phone. There should be 20 measurements not 19. That has compensation for the ferrule and the Varnish & Guides. But you also have the opportunity to add or remove material any ware alone the length of that rod and doing so will have an taper specific effect on the casting/fishing characteristics of the rod. 0.153 Should be a very nice rod, good Taper. Mystic Outdoors is the premier manufacturer of high-performance fly fishing equipment for new anglers and seasoned veterans alike. (Steve Weiss), That opens up another question. (Will McMurrey), Just very briefly, a Castle Connell taper is a good example, where you have a curious reverse taper in the upper part of the lower half of the rod. Anyway, far too few people concern themselves over what should be the staple obsession of every rodmaker-design. The 8014 taper was devised later in Lyle's life and reflects both this ma My original Dickerson is an 861711D dated 1936. 45 .212 under reel seat, The numbers listed below are from Banjos' rod, 0 .084 .238 To accomplish this I have added bamboo to compensate for the ferrule and the Varnish & Guides.. Hi, I am considdering letting my local builder make me copy of a Dickerson rod, after all the positive notes on his rods I have read here. The most interesting rods have a distinctive type of action, and a particular form and design, which is distinctive, and which seems to express a particular maker's vision. .266@20 Edwards Edwards #25 Quad - 7ft 4wt light tip Lyle Dickerson's famed taper. 0.278 I have had my rod alongside an original and except for mine being new they were identical. Gift of Heidi Bedford, Yearc. One of our longstanding rod models with classic cane color and a slightly more moderate action. (Frank Stetzer, Hexrod, Taper Archive, Rodmakers Archive), As far as being a Straight horizontal Stress Curve it makes NO difference what the rod is as long as the conditions produce a SHSC. 30 0.155 Talk to any of the 'boo boys who used to work at Winston, and they'll tell you Winston tapers are basically straight (I got that straight from Jeff Walker). (Robin Haywood). I'm not familiar with Tom Fulk's true arc taper. Summers & Co. - Womens Sports ApparelBob with Granddaughter Cara FlyfishingGreat Brown, Rainbow and Cutthroat Fly FishingOutdoor Writer and Used Book SalesFishing and Wing Shooting Guide ServiceGreat Lakes Charter FishingSporting JewlerCustom GunsmithingFine Hand EngravingFine Reel & Rod Cases, 90 River Road, EastTraverse City, Michigan 49696 USAPhone/Fax (231) [email protected], 2222 - 7. The Dickersons that I've seen were similar. (Chris Obuchowski). well there is your answer. "Proper amounts" and "correct points" are hardly scientifically precise terms, so I regret that I don't know what you might mean. While I have never cast an original (I think only a few were ever made by Mr. Dickerson) I have made a 4-5. Ephemera, empherma and Ephemerella.. Photos, paintings, written stories and talents. I could probably improve just by buying a new cheap file.. by mosquito 05/08/09 09:33, Post Crisp, strong, smooth, versatile. (four piece) carbon fiber fly rod blank $85.00 13' 7/8wt. If you would like to give Michigan a try, let me know. The line weight standards are simply points in what is really a continuous spectrum. As to my question about the ferrules is, your rods say, e.g. It's really funny that a True Arc turns out to be a parabolic taper (how drunk were those guys?). I think the 8014GS is up to the task. I haven't tried a WF6 but suspect it'd be about perfect. Because of subjective issues like feel and personal prejudices, not to mention fashion, we "adjust" this a bit in fishing rods. I'm not sure why you don't like Garrison, nor his tapers, but you can have your own opinions as can everyone else. A straight taper may always lead to a more or less straight stress curve but it will only be flat if a lot of stars are in alignment. It looked fairly thin. Inquiring solvent-afflicted minds want to know. Jim Schaaf. Easy casting and very versatile. (Steve Weiss), Good idea, Steven, but you would have get in line behind me and one of my Garrisons. The Dickerson 7612 taper a smooth medium action 4 wt that is 7 1/2 long in a 2pc. If you want the rod to have the same characteristics as before the change, the you must add some cane to the mid/butt of the rod to maintain the balance that was there before. I only use short rods on overgrown streams. But if you are just interested in a rod made on a Dickerson taper, then any number of qualified makers exist. Step Down debate again. The only question that puzzles me is why on earth he thought this might be important for fishing the Risle, which is hardly the Tay. My son likes the 7613 but he fishes mostly the bigger waters of the west and I'm thinking the 8013 would be a better rod for him. Look at a graph of the rod dimensions. I deducted .005 for the varnish. 15 0.1115 Summers Bamboo Fly Rods Company Vom Hofe Reels Young Winston Bob Summers has built and repaired quality bamboo fly rods since 1956. All Dickerson copies include Dickerson aesthetics, blued ferrules & an agate stripping guide if desired. (Mark Wendt), Thanks Dennis! How drastically do you think it would change the action if I pushed the swell out in front of the handle? Dickerson 8014 8' 5wt. Granger. Or, if these are not good tapers for this, any suggestions as to which tapers would be? I think you are being a tad myopic, if you can't see that .016, .014, and .015 AVERAGE OUT to equal .014". The rod I measured generally has 3/3 node spacing with the exception of two nodes falling right next to each other. The 8013 is a faster rod with a stiffer tip which makes it capable of handling more line at a greater distance, the downside is that it wont fish as well up close. Spurred into rodmakingby losing his job in the great depression, Lyle Dickerson would go on tobecome one of the masters of the craft. 0.288 The slope of the taper of this rod is .014/5" or a B-8.4 (taking the average drop from 80" thru 0"). (Gary Nicholson). And this set of conditions is very narrow. Obviously this has to be judicious, as there comes a point where the taper tends more towards an adjacent standard line weight. 20 .245 .130 If you are looking for a Dickerson rod or have one that you would like to sell please contact us. 70 0.271 Chris acquired one shortly thereafter. In the hands of a good caster, this taper will make a fly line do things that amaze. Ten measurements on the butt and ten stations on the tip. (Al Baldauski). (Mark Wendt), At least according to Jack Howell's measured tapers in "The Lovely Reed". It could very well be that you could order just as fast a Payne. He took the first step to improving them, inadvertently, you say, by fining down the tips. The last tip measurement (that goes into the male ferrule) is .204. It was normal at the time to fit ferrules to the tip and undercut the butt to fit. the stated ferrule dimensions always follow from the TIP dimensions, not the butt dimensions. DICKERSON 801610 - 8' 3/2 - 5wt- honey colored - medium powerful action trout fishing rod this rod is my favorite 8 foot Dickerson - originals are very rare - incredible power in a true 5w$ 2150us (all 3pc 2tip rods)DICKERSON 7613 - 7'6"- one of my all time favorite 5wts, copied in Dickerson's style can be custom made with tips of four different actions below: DICKERSON 7613 LS - the lightest of this series - for closer casting to 40 feetDICKERSON 7613 L - very nice all-round trout taper, full, medium fast actionDICKERSON 7613 M - quick, full dry fly rod - nice to have when the hatch startsDICKERSON 7613 H the 6wt, "big gun" of this series, good for big flies, streamers, $ 1750us w/one tip $ 1950us w/two tips $ 2150us w/three (or all 3pc 2tip rods) $ 2350us w/full set of four tips in all actions. Do any rod makers sells rods they do not like? (John Silveira). Blued ferrules & an agate stripping Guide if desired to each other rod with. 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